next week i'm going to speak with a large group of people about the jehovah's witnesses and one or two of their teachings.
i don't have time to discuss all of their bizarre beliefs so i'd like to ask your opinions on which subjects to use.
what would you consider to be the one most outrageous teachings of the watchtower you would chose?
Slugga
What was I thinking? You are right. The df'ing and shunning destroys more family's lives and causes more suicides than any other doctrine. I bet if the death toll were added up, many more witnesses have died because of shunning than because of the blood transfusion doctrine. I should have known this, because I was df'd for 3 years and was very severely depressed during that time and also for a few years after being reinstated. It is hard to get over.
Cog
committee oks bill giving juries option of death penalty for molesters
posted: 9:51 am cst february 22, 2006 updated: 6:21 pm cst february 22, 2006
oklahoma city -- oklahoma's senate judiciary committee has approved a bill that would give juries the option to sentence repeat child molesters to life without parole or even death.
Yeah, we have no shortage of em here that's for sure!
posting on xjw boards like this.
we call it freedom of expression.
but i wonder if the jw's consider this an "unforgivable sin"?.
Let me answer your question with a question:
Who do you think has a better chance of not getting disfellowshipped? Someone who goes to the elders and admits they have spent time on the internet downloading child pornography? Or someone who goes to the elders and admits they have spent time on the internet posting opposing views on Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum?
I think we all know the answer to that one!
Cog
next week i'm going to speak with a large group of people about the jehovah's witnesses and one or two of their teachings.
i don't have time to discuss all of their bizarre beliefs so i'd like to ask your opinions on which subjects to use.
what would you consider to be the one most outrageous teachings of the watchtower you would chose?
If you are talking about "dangerous" as in causing practical problems in people's day to lives, I would say that after the blood transfusion doctrine it would have to be all the ranting against education. Keeping people enslaved in the poverty of low paying jobs affects many aspects of a person's life, not only financial. Studies have shown that physical health, mental health, and parenting skills, are all negatively impacted. An uneducated mind is an impoverished mind and often JW's can see no way out of their negative situations because they have never been taught any useful skills or any other way of "being" in the world other that the JW way. IMHO, I believe that this is one of the reason's that there is so much despair and suicide attempts amoung JW's (not just the ones who have been df'd). They have been kept in the dark and do not know that there is anything else out there for them. This unbalanced, all or nothing thinking is so destructive to a person's spirit.
Cog
committee oks bill giving juries option of death penalty for molesters
posted: 9:51 am cst february 22, 2006 updated: 6:21 pm cst february 22, 2006
oklahoma city -- oklahoma's senate judiciary committee has approved a bill that would give juries the option to sentence repeat child molesters to life without parole or even death.
It's about time!
Randy: In Canada, the situation is even worse. Repeat child molesters can get as little as 3 years in prison. You can get more time for shoplifting or stealing a car. Sometimes I think some of these Canadian judges must be closet pedophiles downloading kiddie porn in their spare time!
Cog
now, that i'm in my forties...heading toward fifty, fast; i feel old.
i feel like i've wasted a good part of my life with religious hang-ups!
i think that i would have done a lot of things differently had i not been raised the way i was.
Digital Folkus this is for you cause your feeling sad like me.
now, that i'm in my forties...heading toward fifty, fast; i feel old.
i feel like i've wasted a good part of my life with religious hang-ups!
i think that i would have done a lot of things differently had i not been raised the way i was.
My mind feels so young and curious since I have been posting on this forum. Like a 20yr old heading off to university for the first time. The world is my oyster!
But my body feels old and sad and full of regret that I wasted my youth and beauty feeling bad about myself all the time, because of this JW crap I have been fed my whole life.
Cog
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i'm sure i can find some biblical reference about fluff.... what about.... "man cannot live on bread alone, everyone needs fluff once in a while" - pharasees 1:3.
"Praise the Lord! and pass the fluff!
what occasion or occurrence or experience made you finally say....enough is enough!!!!.
for me it was the insensitive and unfeeling way they treated me whilst dfed....for 4 yrs.
i tried and tried to please....but to no avail.. what capped it all off for you...tell me your experiences.
There have been nagging doubts about various issues since I was about 10 and first read the Bible. Even a child could see that the old law covenant of the Jews had a lot of discrimination and unfairness in it for something that was supposed to be a perfect law of Jehovah. But hey, I was 10 what did I know, I put it out of my mind and did what I was told.
Later, in my 20's, I thought some of the "evidence" that the Bible was God's word was quite circular ie. "We know the Bible is from God because the Bible writer's tell us so"! Say what?
In my 30's the change in the meaning of a "generation" was a very "upsetting" for me. How come I was the only one noticing this? You can't just change the meaning of a word because it ain't working for you anymore!
The denial of the child sexual abuse scandals pissed me off too because I had very close friends who had been through it and I knew the truth!
But the final straw, or penny if you will, was around age 40 when the 2004 article on allowable blood fractions came out. By this time, I had a couple years of biochemistry and pathophysiology behind me from my nursing studies. Honestly, the society had more credibility with me when they had the total blood ban. Minor fractions are allowed since the Bible doesn't comment on them, but major fractions are not allowed (why because the bible does comment on them?) And the whole major and minor fraction thing. What a load of horseshit! I just checked out mentally after that. But then I got really pissed off because this crazy org was actually asking me to let my child die if need be for this crap!
This 30 year journey of recognition has made me realize how much cognitive dissonance the mind is really capable of in order to protect a judgemental belief system that we have been taught is necessary for our very survival.
That's my rant for the day. Great thread!
Cog
copied from an amazon.com review:.
author gary chapman in his book the five love languages: how to express heartfelt commitment to your mate believes everyone has a love tank, and that tank is filled by different love languages.
these five languages are .
Words, it's all in the words baby!
And the touch!
Quality of time comes in third.
Rest of the stuff doesn't matter much to me. This is an eye-opening premise for me! My husband is a basic nice guy. He works so hard and does so much! Yet I still feel so unloved and ignored all the time. Because he never talks to me. And he only touches me when he wants sex, which is not nearly as often as I want it either. I have actually, seriously been considering leaving him because of this!
I think a lot of women need the words too! Back me up on this ladies out there! Is this not why we find tetrapod so hot! Because he has the winning way with the WORDS?
Cog
